THanks, Cathy, and thanks for the lively reading.
I like this suggestion for the minor, Lots of flexibility. Yes, once they HAD to take a lit in translation course! In English Dept, or otherwise.
David
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From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cathy Wagner [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:12 PM
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Here you go, David. Thanks for coming out tonight! Good to see you.
Possible Minor in Creative Writing
Required
ENG 226 Introduction to Creative Writing
*Possible problem: funneling large numbers of students through the course before they can take the other courses.
Choose One
ENG 320 Creative Writing: Fiction
ENG 330 Creative Writing: Poetry
ENG 323 Creative Nonfiction
Choose Four (One course must be at the 400 level? Not sure about this.)
ENG 320 Creative Writing: Fiction
ENG 330 Creative Writing: Poetry
ENG 323 Creative Nonfiction
ENG 420 Advanced Fiction Workshop
ENG 430 Advanced Poetry Workshop
ENG 321 Literary Marketplace
ENG 422 Screenwriting
ENG 311 Contemporary Fiction
ENG 312 Contemporary Poetry
ENG 231 The Short Story
ENG 259 World Novel
ENG 261 Modern Drama
ENG 281 The English Novel
ENG 282 American Fiction (This has never been taught since I've been here.)
ENG 283 Modern Poetry
ENG 450 Studies in Genre
ENG 470 Independent Study in English
ENG 480 Honors Thesis in English
*We could strike some of the genre courses and add cross-listed courses from IMS and Theater (like playwrighting, for instance). Of course some of the IMS courses are already ENG courses. I included the genre classes partly to avoid log-jam, but some of them are offered only infrequently. It does give students who want genre-focus that option.
*Some of the courses on the books can be tweaked to our new purposes: Tom Schmidlin is considering proposing a version of ENG 323, Creative Nonfiction, that focuses on the graphic memoir. ENG 226 can be tweaked to be more "creativity" focused and less genre-based. Eric Melby, I think you do this already, right?
*We could build in some other electives in the last category—literature in translation used to be part of the old, old creative writing major, if I remember correctly. A lot of students took a course in fairy tales from GREAL. (The old, old creative writing major actually was kind of interdisciplinary!)
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:11 PM, "Luongo, Margaret M. Ms." <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi, all--
I took a stab at a minor that would be quick to start up, with no new courses, if we felt the need to start up quickly. When we design new courses we could add to and delete from the minor.
We could possibly cross-list existing courses from IMS and Theater (like playwrighting, for instance). Of course some of the IMS courses are already ENG courses. (Digital rhetoric, Visual rhetoric, etc)
Some of the ENG courses on the books can be tweaked to our new purposes: Tom Schmidlin is considering proposing a version of ENG 323, Creative Nonfiction, that focuses on the graphic memoir. ENG 226 can be tweaked to be more "creativity" focused and less genre-based.
I think we should take our time with the design of new courses and our new major; I'm not foot-dragging--I'm really excited about the possibilities. I just want to be sure we design something flexible, sustainable, and long-lasting (hard to predict, I know). It should be relatively easy to cut courses within the BA, and could be relatively easy to add a minor. If we make the smaller changes first--cutting credit hours from the major, adding a minor--I think we could fill our classrooms. Then we can go about designing our dream major.
Anyway, document attached, with minimal notes.
--Margaret
Margaret Luongo
Associate Professor, Creative Writing
Department of English
370 Bachelor Hall
Oxford, OH 45056
513-529-3237
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Subject: thanks
For hanging on in there, with the complications of re-shaping ourselves to greet the oncoming wave of reviews and reforms.
We meet again next wednesday. It does seem to be the case that we can refashion from the insides out, starting with a minor and with BA revision.
IF you have thoughts towards a minor do circulate them in advance.
WHatever shape the minor takes, and i suggested a couple of my early takes, i hear Keith's advocacy for more courses that move us beyond the fixity of genres and or for more courses that ramp up the rhetoric around creativity. I've been developing about creativity for some time and will try to share that with you before we gather next week.
cris
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