2:30-3:30 works for me on Feb 7, and I'd like to be a part of this
discussion if you all don't mind, but please start earlier without me.
David, for what it's worth the RCM budget model being discussed (with a
committee report and open forums to follow this spring; then a shadow
budget next year with tweaking to follow examination of the results and
introduction the year after next) will count as revenue for the division
(= the cost center) courses taught by instructors in CAS and taken by
students with a major in FSB or other divisions. No "leeching off us"
allowed then. The finer points concerning how revenue will be calculated
(the weighting of upper division courses, of numbers of majors as well as
hours of instruction since maintaining a major means other costs) are
still under discussion, and the committee charged with presenting
recommendations is only beginning discussion of the cost side.I could
summarize some of the conversations to date since I hear about them from a
chair on the committee, but it's better to wait until more is settled and
a report is presented for public discussion. (I'm not sure at this point
how ICA will fit in the picture, but you can be sure that I am interested
in that question.) I can also assure you that the dean is working hard to
protect the interests of CAS and liberal education--and the English
Department. She'll be a strong voice in the Council of Academic Deans as
the committee's recommendations are reviewed there. Which is not to say
that the department shouldn't be thinking about its future--its curriculum
and enrollments, its student recruitment and its pr and various other
matters. The Literature faculty is off to a promising start following
their retreat.
Keith
On 1/28/12 3:53 PM, "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Tues 7th at 2 is good for me
>
>x
>
>c
>
>
>On Jan 28, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Schloss, David Mr. wrote:
>
>> Tues Feb 7 at 32: I believe a very important meeting I have scheduled
>>in Cinti will be over in time for me to make that, much as I hate
>>driving in extra to do so.
>>
>> I hope it's not all just fanciful thinking that comes to nothing
>>practical: I think we need to assess the realities and fight for what we
>>can agree on about what we need and can really get. Visions of the
>>future are moot without any practical support for them in hiring,
>>assistantships, etc, I believe. I hope Dean Callahan will really support
>>English and Liberal Arts against Business-model running of this place by
>>Provosts, etc.
>>
>> The other colleges at MU are leeching off us for coverage of things
>>they brag about, but offer no trickle down, even (esp Business) to
>>support this comparatively sweat shop labor, partly on their behalf, or
>>at least to their benefit. We also support the athletic dept's losses of
>>$14/year. Until academics and a liberal education are restored to some
>>respected core in Miami's mission for itself, any fantasies for the
>>future of the dept will remain mostly fantasies, or conducted on the
>>paradigm of what we don't have to jettison over the side of the
>>lifeboat. I prefer to get off (as I've said before) this Raft of the
>>Medusa. Expect further erosion of Literature at the expense of
>>"practical" money-making programs in the future. The way of all liberal
>>arts schools...
>>
>> For openers,
>>
>> David
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>>[[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goodman, Eric
>>[[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:17 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Runaway Bender
>>
>> How about Tuesday Feb 7th at 2 pm?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Wagner, Cathy"
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:05:11 -0500
>> To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: retreat
>>
>> Of Eric's dates below (I think his was the most recent message -- David
>>must not have seen that cris can't make the 6th) I can make Tuesday, Jan
>>31 or Tuesday, Feb 7, at these times: 11am-12pm, 2-3:30pm. I can also
>>arrange a sitter and we can meet at 6pm or so on one of those two
>>Tuesday evenings, though if possible I'd rather not because I travel out
>>the next day.
>>
>> Sorry, those are the only dates I can make, it's a crazy Feb. I will
>>understand if I have to be left out of this one, though I'd very much
>>like to be there.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Goodman, Eric
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> I can do Tues or Wednesday this coming week
>>
>> Tuesday-Thursday (7-9)
>>
>> Tuesday-Sunday 14-19th.
>>
>> It might be good to try to finish our Runaway before the second
>>department meeting about this, on the 15th.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> From: "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:37:28 -0500
>>
>> To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: retreat
>>
>> Mondays i teach from 1 through 6.45
>>
>> i CAN do Tuesday through Sunday this coming week (Jan 31st - Fen 5th)
>>and Tuesday through Thursday the following week (7-9) and Tuesday
>>through Sunday the week after that (14th-19th).
>>
>> I'm happy to break into the weekends if need be.
>>
>> I DO think that we need an open conversation to hear the out-of-the-box
>>thinking
>> and then we will probably almost all agree to discount such thinking .
>>but i think we
>> need to do such thinking and to share such thoughts
>>
>>
>> x
>>
>>
>> cris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Goodman, Eric wrote:
>>
>> How about Monday the 6th? I don't think this will take us very long.
>> Maybe 1-2 hours. Could be my house or a bar.
>>
>>
>> From: "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:29:31 -0500
>> To: Faculty
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: retreat
>>
>> I will be at Interrupt in Providence . sorry
>>
>> http://literalart.net/schedule/
>>
>>
>> x
>>
>>
>> cris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Goodman, Eric wrote:
>>
>> Okay. So how about anytime Friday the 10th or Saturday the 11th?
>>
>> Let's share preferences for our Runaway Bender.
>>
>> On 1/28/12 2:00 PM, "Luongo, Margaret M. Ms."
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> How about "bender" or "Lost Weekend"?
>>
>>
>> Margaret Luongo
>> Associate Professor, Creative Writing
>> Department of English
>> 356 Bachelor Hall
>> Oxford, OH 45056
>> 513-529-5221<tel:513-529-5221>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty
>> [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On
>>Behalf Of cris cheek [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:22 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: retreat
>>
>> i like the sound of that
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Goodman, Eric wrote:
>>
>> Why don't we call it a Runaway?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: Faculty
>>
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:M
>>[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:15:41 -0500
>> To: Faculty
>>
>><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:M
>>[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: retreat
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> i hesitate to mention the dreaded word retreat
>>
>> but i think we ought to be having one.
>>
>>
>> cris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Catherine Wagner
>> Associate Professor of English
>> Assistant Director, Literary London Program
>> Miami University
>> 314 Bachelor Hall
>> Oxford OH 45056
>>
>> 513-529-3828 (my office)
>> 513-529-5221 (main office)
>> 513-529-1392 fax
>>
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
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