I would prefer to see 12 additional hours of creative writing courses as the core, rather than just the nine that we currently have. We could tell them to pick 4, with one at the 400-level, with the understanding that we're going to add more courses to this area. We might check into cross-listing the playwriting course that Theater offers and whatever else makes sense and adding those to the bucket.

I agree that we should allow electives from literature and PW, and possibly lit in translation from GREAL, unless that would become a nightmare for our lit faculty.

I don't love the idea of requiring 123 and 124. We ran into problems with that in the old major, which is why it's no longer a requirement in the new major. It ended up that senior CW majors were taking it because they had such a hard time getting into it. I don't think those courses will go away in the immediate future, even if we don't require them for our majors; people outside of English take them for the Miami Plan. Who knows what will happen when the Miami Plan is revised.

--Margaret



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Subject: major revision thoughts

Hi everyone,

i'm cutting and pasting Andrew Hebard's proposal to revise the Lit major. It's one of several on the Lit major revising wiki. It represents a fair summary of the thinking in Lit though. All of the six proposals posted are written to 36 Credit hours. They all specify 298 and the majority split at the 1800 time frame.


36 Credit hours
1)    Eng 298

2)    At least 2 Pre-1800 courses.

3)    At least 2 Post-1800 courses.

4)    At least 2 400 level courses.

5)    Capstone

6)    Students are allowed to count 3 courses from Creative Writing or Professional Writing towards the major.

7)    No more than 2 100 level course can count toward the major


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CW could be rewritten along such lines:

36 Credit Hours

Eng 226 (3 credit hours)

CONTEMPORARY WRITING
One of these:

Eng 123
Eng 124

One of these:

        • ENG 311 Contemporary Fiction (3)
        • ENG 312 Contemporary Poetry (3)

ENGLISH CAPSTONE

One of these:

        • ENG 460 Issues in Creative Writing (3)
        • ENG 495 Capstone in Literature (3)

NINE ADDITIONAL HOURS OF CREATIVE WRITING AT 300- AND 400-LEVELS
From these courses:

        • ENG 320 Creative Writing: Short Story (3)
        • ENG 321 Creative Writing: Literary Marketplace (3)
        • ENG 323 Creative Non-Fiction (3)
        • ENG 330 Creative Writing: Poetry (3)
        • ENG 420 Advanced Undergraduate Fiction Workshop (3)
        • ENG 422 Creative Writing: Screenwriting (3)
        • ENG 430 Advanced Undergraduate Poetry Workshop (3)
Note: (1) ENG 320 is the prerequisite for ENG 420; ENG 330 is the prerequisite for ENG 430. Students must take an intermediate and advanced course in the same genre, poetry or fiction. (2) Courses may be taken a second time. Repeat credits WILL NOT count toward the major requirement of nine (9) hours of creative writing courses, but will count toward the 128 hours required for a degree.


Eng 298

At least 2 Pre-1800 Literature Classes

At least 2 Post-1800 courses.