I would tend to agree that ought to be genres.

On 12/7/12 12:45 AM, "Schloss, David Mr." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Dear cris,
>
>I think that there are genres and forms with in them that beginning
>writers would profit from by discerning. They can blur them later to
>their heart's content, but there's basic (historical ) information they
>ought to have before they start playing around, in my opinion. It's like
>artists who never learned to draw so have to content themselves with
>abstractions and ideas instead because they haven't mastered their
>medium. I regret the loss of traditional competence in the arts--they can
>build on these forms once they have them. To leap past the basics is to
>deny the needed grounding to fully play, I think. Picasso was rooted in
>traditions he mastered before he experimented with them (often showing
>his conceptual limitations, btw, to me).
>
>My pre-holiday thoughts on this subject. I could go on, but that's the
>gist of what I think 226 ought to provide. They usually don't know what
>they don't know, It's up to us to give them a good grounding. And yes,
>habits of creative play are important to expose them to as well... But I
>wouldn't put the cart before the horse. Or is the horse creativity?
>They've been given that in the abstract, I think, before this course?
>Maybe not in a good directed way. I think 226 should do both: genres,
>forms. And how to think/feel like a writer.
>
>David
>
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>Subject: Re: ENG 226
>
>thnx for the procedural info Keith. Perfect.
>
>As to the question about forms versus genres . well, it's a decent
>question. I'll let others here get their pre-holiday teeth into it.
>
>My two cents of thinking about it was that our wording could operate more
>like suggested models, and perhaps models would be the best term? In
>other words it's not that fiction or poetry were/are forms in themselves
>- that i agree is a silly assertion - but that forms of fiction and forms
>or poetry would be used as models for student practice et cetera . . I'm
>wary of fiction and poetry being used as genres, in themselves and as
>such. I'm wary because works often fit into multiple genres and the
>maintenance of such a discreet binary might inhibit our flexibility and
>student flexibility.
>
>
>cris
>
>
>On Dec 6, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Tuma, Keith W. wrote:
>
>This is a minor or "additional" curriculum change. The form for it is at
>the Registrar page
>(http://www.units.muohio.edu/reg/faculty/courseapproval/index.php) and is
>sent to Becky Sander in that office, who sends it to me for approval. The
>chair will have to sign off.
>
>Is it "forms" or "genres" you want to use in the new sentence?
>
>From: "Cheek, Christopher F. Dr."
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>Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:29:36 -0500
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>Subject: ENG 226
>
>Thanks so much. I also agree with the reservations about explicitly
>adding anything that could prove too meddlesome. I like Brian's elegant
>solution and Cathy's comma extraction.
>
>So, here's the rewording. I'll run it by Patrick Murphy this morning and
>see what we actually need to do (maybe not so much) to make it fly and
>get it entered in the various course descriptor trails.
>
>ENG 226. Exploring techniques and principles of writing and creativity
>through forms such as shorter fiction and poetry. This class is rooted in
>student practice.
>
>
>onwards,
>
>
>cris