Yes, I like Brian's "through forms such as fiction and poetry" as well.
Margaret Luongo
Associate Professor, Creative Writing
Department of English
370 Bachelor Hall
Oxford, OH 45056
513-529-3237
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cris, I like it too. I agree with Brian's solution to the issues the
Erics mention ("such as"). Lose comma first sentence.
On Dec 6, 2012, at 1:26 AM, "Roley, Brian" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I like cris's wording. But I see Eric Goodman's point about screen-based or anything else that might not get taught. We don't want to set up an expectation for students that a course will cover a bunch of things--which might not actually get covered. Perhaps we can phrase it "...through forms SUCH AS fiction and poetry..." or we could add more but need to make it clear that it might not be covered. ie, "...might include such forms as..."
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> Brian
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> I like the rewording too, cris, especially the emphasis on creativity :)
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> The trick seems to be to generate a broad course description that fac/grads can suit to their individual pedagogies, but also ensure at least some broad standards in terms of learning outcomes and student expectations. If we want to leave open the options for teaching multimedia/performance/screenwriting genres, etc., the end of the course description could read something like “…through forms of fiction, poetry, and other genres, including multimedia/performance.”
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> “…through forms including but not limited to fiction, poetry, multimedia, performance, and screenwriting” is awkward writing, but a step toward even more accuracy, perhaps.
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> Eric MUM
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> From: Miami University Creative Writing Faculty [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goodman, Eric
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> I think this sounds pretty good. Not certain about the screen-based, unless everyone who teaches it is to be required to teach that way.
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> i all,
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> in the wake of our meeting about the minor this morning we wondered aloud about including 123/124 in the line up of courses. 123/124 could be recommended (not required) and only one of the two could be taken as part of the minor.
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> With respect to the minor Margaret and i are going to try to cook up the necessary reasoning and then wemight get our proposal to the first undergraduate committee of next semester, with a view to progressing it through the variant stages of approval asap.
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> We also wondered about reworking the descriptor for 226, to move it more towards writing and creativity.
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> In terms of the latter, I've taken a preliminary dart at such a description:
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> ENG 226. Exploring techniques and principles of writing and creativity, through forms of shorter fiction and poetry. This class is rooted in student practice.
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> not attached to it one iota. Seeking feedback and or amendments / alternate darts. Might we want to add a reference to screen-based media into that descriptor, for example??
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> Looking forwards,
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> cris
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