Bill - you're a real piece of work. And that's putting it VERY mildly.
Carlton SchooleyStrasburg (Tuscarawas)
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 5:27:00 PM EST, Bill Whan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Carlton--
Thanks for the references. I'm less than happy with off-hand references
to OKs offered by unknown persons. The Baird's sparrow, backed up by
Trautman, is another matter, also because a specimen was involved. Your
search through Peterjohn will avail you nothing on the
tern. These days species are not added without data; if there are photos
or descriptions at least they should be available. Peterjohn need not
repeat these data, but the should be made available, and the Bird
Records Committee would be a good place to keep them; otherwise
you will have to look--not through your Peterjohn--to find them. Why not
store them at the OBRC?
Thanks,
Bill
On 1/30/2018 4:29 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> I'm sure that, besides the lack of captivity issue and the seasonal
> movements in SA issue, there must have been persuasive field notes...
> There are several other species on the Ohio state list for which
> there is no photo or specimen. Or for which there was no photo or
> specimen for the first accepted record. One that comes immediately
> to mind is Baird's Sparrow. I'd have to look through my Peterjohn to
> find the others... Carlton SchooleyStrasburg (Tuscarawas)
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 3:43:31 PM EST, Bill Whan
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I have always been troubled with the acceptance of the Large-billed
> Tern to the Ohio list. There is no specimen, no photograph, and no
> precedence. It was reported seen by three observers on a sandbar in
> Mahoning County on 29 May 1954. It was said to have been the second
> appearance of this species in North America (the other was from 1949
> in Illinois); I am taking this information from "The Birds of Ohio"
> and there have been other reports I haven't seen). Reported supports
> of the ID were that the species was unknown in captivity and its
> appearance corresponds with its seasonal movements in south America
> (all data from Peterjohn, "The Birds of Ohio." p. 250). Lots of
> birders' reports of far less rare species are rejected for lack of a
> photo or a specimen, yet this occurrence seems to have been accepted.
> The Birds of Ohio states that large-billed tern reports here have
> been questioned, while this occurrence was accepted because the
> species is "unknown in captivity and its appearance in Ohio
> correspondences with its seasonal movements in South America." The
> occurrence lacks hard evidence and I wonder why this far-fetched
> appearance, lacking persuasive evidence, is still regarded as
> legitimate. If there a better set of hard evidence, where is it? Why
> has it been accepted to the Ohio list, when others with just as
> unlikely have been laughed off? Bill Whan Columbus
>
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