Karen, you seem to think it was a photographer but you don't truly know. Condemning all photographers is wrong. NOT all photographers are bad as you perceive. For all you know it could have been someone who isn't a bird watcher or photographer.
    I am a photographer and I like to photograph wildlife, but not at the expense of them. I do stay back an take pictures from afar. The other photographers I know feel the same way. That is why we buy expensive long lenses. We don't hesitate to tell anyone they are getting too close.
    Amature birders,photographers and the general public need to be taught the correct way to view. Unless you can prove it was a photographer you should not condem them. You do not know me or how I approach the situation. I could easily condem birders, but I have no proof.
    All I can say is it is a shame for everyone. Now no one gets a chance to see them. Same on us as a society for not caring enough to consider what is a safe distance to view or photograph from.

Tim

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On Jan 20, 2018 6:20 PM, Karen Zeleznik <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> This horrifies me. Now I understand why people will not share locations 
> with people they do not know. I hate to condemn one group, but after 
> watching two photographers last spring as they moved branches for better 
> photos of a Saw-whet, my thought is a greedy photographer. Since you seem 
> to be talking about the little owl within the park beyond the turnstile, I 
> am grateful I never saw that one of the two, therefore my directions for 
> the second owl we're not used for destruction. If I see ANY clear Saw-whet 
> photos I will blast someone. I just know my temper will get away from me. 
>
> Karen 
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 5:02 PM, "Haans Petruschke" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
>
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I doubt the Port Authority will do anything.  It would not do any good 
> > anyway.  Whomever did this cutting would have ignored tape or rope.  Plus 
> > if you had been to this site you would know that in order to actually see 
> > the Owls it was necessary to scramble through some tangle and then viewing 
> > was from about 10-15 feet.  It would be impossible to put up tape without 
> > disturbing the owls or blocking viewing. 
> > 
> > In the end the only injury is to the people who could have had a chance to 
> > see these birds.  Not to the Owls.  They are likely fine in a different 
> > roosting area. 
> > 
> > Owls don't need protection. This is an issue about someone being a selfish 
> > jerk and inconsiderate.  Nothing more. 
> > 
> > Haans 
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Jamie Koller <[log in to unmask]> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > I had contacted someone last week about the CLNP to give those owls a 
> > good 
> > > buffer by roping off ASAP..at least 30 feet but the person I spoke too 
> > > believes roping the area off has no merit.. the owls move.  I was just 
> > > there to see the area for myself and I see well worn areas where the owls 
> > > must have stayed put. I plan to follow up Monday with your findings and 
> > my 
> > > photos. Simple signs and rope could be significant.  Its a shame someone 
> > > hadn’t suggested roping or tape earlier. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:33 PM Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> Hi, 
> > >> 
> > >> The little Northern Saw-whet Owls have been very reliable in the same 
> > >> location for weeks at CLNP, but are not there today.  Examination of the 
> > >> roost site showed that the tangle had been trimmed with a clipper all 
> > the 
> > >> way back to where one of the little owls would sit.  Of course the owl 
> > is 
> > >> no longer there. 
> > >> 
> > >> These owls showed remarkable fidelity to this location and tolerance to 
> > >> close approach by humans which is typical if they are in a protected 
> > >> location.  Cutting the tangle eliminated the protective aspect of the 
> > >> roost 
> > >> and so the little owls are gone. 
> > >> 
> > >> I was not present when the cutting was done and do not know the reason. 
> > >> Anything I might suggest would be speculative and so I refuse to 
> > speculate 
> > >> for the reason or motive for the disturbance. 
> > >> 
> > >> This was great while it lasted, and it is too bad the site was disturbed 
> > >> in 
> > >> such a gross manner.  The fidelity to this site over such a long period 
> > >> provides good evidence of how tolerant owls can be to human presence so 
> > >> long as we do not go too far. 
> > >> 
> > >> How far is too far? Cutting stuff certainly.  Also touching the bird.  I 
> > >> have found that having loud groups taken to see roosting owls also 
> > results 
> > >> in them leaving an otherwise reliable roost. But as Roger Tory Peterson 
> > >> noted so long ago, Owls can otherwise be ridiculously tame and 
> > >> approachable.  No different than Warblers or Chickadees in the right 
> > >> situation. 
> > >> 
> > >> Haans 
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