I know, you are correct. In my comment you will see that I was hesitant to
condemn a group.  But as a birder who takes pictures, I suffer branches in
front of my birds, and more, because to move them would be wrong. I know
this could be anyone, but the person who did it was prepared with
clippers.  I generally do not carry those anywhere, so this is kind of odd.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Tim Zelko <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Karen, you seem to think it was a photographer but you don't truly know.
> Condemning all photographers is wrong. NOT all photographers are bad as you
> perceive. For all you know it could have been someone who isn't a bird
> watcher or photographer.
>     I am a photographer and I like to photograph wildlife, but not at the
> expense of them. I do stay back an take pictures from afar. The other
> photographers I know feel the same way. That is why we buy expensive long
> lenses. We don't hesitate to tell anyone they are getting too close.
>     Amature birders,photographers and the general public need to be taught
> the correct way to view. Unless you can prove it was a photographer you
> should not condem them. You do not know me or how I approach the situation.
> I could easily condem birders, but I have no proof.
>     All I can say is it is a shame for everyone. Now no one gets a chance
> to see them. Same on us as a society for not caring enough to consider what
> is a safe distance to view or photograph from.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid
> On Jan 20, 2018 6:20 PM, Karen Zeleznik <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > This horrifies me. Now I understand why people will not share locations
> > with people they do not know. I hate to condemn one group, but after
> > watching two photographers last spring as they moved branches for better
> > photos of a Saw-whet, my thought is a greedy photographer. Since you seem
> > to be talking about the little owl within the park beyond the turnstile,
> I
> > am grateful I never saw that one of the two, therefore my directions for
> > the second owl we're not used for destruction. If I see ANY clear
> Saw-whet
> > photos I will blast someone. I just know my temper will get away from me.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2018 5:02 PM, "Haans Petruschke" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I doubt the Port Authority will do anything.  It would not do any good
> > > anyway.  Whomever did this cutting would have ignored tape or rope.
> Plus
> > > if you had been to this site you would know that in order to actually
> see
> > > the Owls it was necessary to scramble through some tangle and then
> viewing
> > > was from about 10-15 feet.  It would be impossible to put up tape
> without
> > > disturbing the owls or blocking viewing.
> > >
> > > In the end the only injury is to the people who could have had a
> chance to
> > > see these birds.  Not to the Owls.  They are likely fine in a different
> > > roosting area.
> > >
> > > Owls don't need protection. This is an issue about someone being a
> selfish
> > > jerk and inconsiderate.  Nothing more.
> > >
> > > Haans
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Jamie Koller <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I had contacted someone last week about the CLNP to give those owls a
> > > good
> > > > buffer by roping off ASAP..at least 30 feet but the person I spoke
> too
> > > > believes roping the area off has no merit.. the owls move.  I was
> just
> > > > there to see the area for myself and I see well worn areas where the
> owls
> > > > must have stayed put. I plan to follow up Monday with your findings
> and
> > > my
> > > > photos. Simple signs and rope could be significant.  Its a shame
> someone
> > > > hadn’t suggested roping or tape earlier.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:33 PM Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> The little Northern Saw-whet Owls have been very reliable in the
> same
> > > >> location for weeks at CLNP, but are not there today.  Examination
> of the
> > > >> roost site showed that the tangle had been trimmed with a clipper
> all
> > > the
> > > >> way back to where one of the little owls would sit.  Of course the
> owl
> > > is
> > > >> no longer there.
> > > >>
> > > >> These owls showed remarkable fidelity to this location and
> tolerance to
> > > >> close approach by humans which is typical if they are in a protected
> > > >> location.  Cutting the tangle eliminated the protective aspect of
> the
> > > >> roost
> > > >> and so the little owls are gone.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was not present when the cutting was done and do not know the
> reason.
> > > >> Anything I might suggest would be speculative and so I refuse to
> > > speculate
> > > >> for the reason or motive for the disturbance.
> > > >>
> > > >> This was great while it lasted, and it is too bad the site was
> disturbed
> > > >> in
> > > >> such a gross manner.  The fidelity to this site over such a long
> period
> > > >> provides good evidence of how tolerant owls can be to human
> presence so
> > > >> long as we do not go too far.
> > > >>
> > > >> How far is too far? Cutting stuff certainly.  Also touching the
> bird.  I
> > > >> have found that having loud groups taken to see roosting owls also
> > > results
> > > >> in them leaving an otherwise reliable roost. But as Roger Tory
> Peterson
> > > >> noted so long ago, Owls can otherwise be ridiculously tame and
> > > >> approachable.  No different than Warblers or Chickadees in the right
> > > >> situation.
> > > >>
> > > >> Haans
> > > >>
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