Is this something for Community Colleges only?    Diane

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio Association for Institutional Research (Ohio AIR)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: GAO survey


Hi Penelope!

Yes, CSCC is going to submit this survey to the GAO.  We are looking at it
from a program level.  In other words, yes we have students who take both
technical and "transfer" type courses, but we are going by what their
declared major is at a certain point in time, not what courses they are
taking.  Does that make sense?

We have a division that handles the non-credit side of the house, so I have
shipped those questions to that division's dean.  We are not anticipating
any new programming (and in the midst of a conversion to Datatel we CAN'T
have any new programming!) nor are we anticipating having a problem meeting
the 4-week deadline.

So, in short, what I've done is taken the questions from a program viewpoint
and shipped off the parts I could not answer to those who can.  I hope this
helps you in your quest to complete this survey.  If you have more
questions, you can e-mail me "off line" so the rest of the group doesn't get
bogged down with our e-mails!

Larry

>>> [log in to unmask] 2/17/2004 9:13:37 AM >>>
Hi All!

We just received a request to fill out a survey for the GAO.  It is
apparently going to all IPEDS coordinators so I'm sure some of you have
received it as well.  It asks for a lot of information including the
unduplicated headcount of  students enrolled in "programs or courses
eligible for academic transfer" and of students in "for credit occupational,
professional, and technical" programs & courses.  We do have specific
programs that are geared toward transfer and others that lead to a technical
degree but many of our courses are taken by students in technical and
non-technical programs.  Also, some courses are transferable to some schools
but not others, in some programs but not others...  Even if these
definitional issues could be sorted out, we believe that we will need new
programming to complete this.

Are you planning to complete this?  If so, how are you going to handle these
issues if you have them at your college?  Do you think this survey is
do-able in 4 weeks as requested?  Will it require new programming?  Do you
know of anywhere I could get more information about this survey?

Thanks for any information/insight you can provide!!!

Penelope Parmer
Project Analyst
Institutional Planning & Research
Sinclair Community College
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