Jim: I'd like to echo the comments of Richard W, Randy S, et al. Talk to the
local FD and AHJ and get rid of them if possible (we did about 23-24 years
ago). For ammunition, check NFPA 14 for the requirements of the 3 classes of
standpipes; NFPA 25 (Table 3-1) for the inspcetion,testing & maintenance
frequencies of various components; NFPA 1962 for the hose racking requirements.

Occupants shouldn't use them (unless trained) and the FD probably won't (unless
they're crazy). The only place we keep them is on either side of the stage in
our main theater because the building is not fully sprinklered. They move out
into a new building in the next month or so and the first thing to go will be
those darn hoses.

Jim Robinson
Univ of Maryland
Facilities Management

"James K. Mossman" wrote:

>         To the list:
>
>         Here at St.Michael's I have noticed we have a number of hoses
> labeled "fire hose for use by occupants" around campus.  In some areas the
> cabinet and standpipe are there, but the hose has been removed and there is
> no label.  In areas where there ARE hoses, they are in good condition but
> there is no inspection tag, as on fire extinguishers.
>
>         We made it through a state labor and industry inspection last year
> (the college requested it) and this issue did not come up, so I don't know
> if we are all set or if it was just overlooked....
>
>         QUESTIONS:
>
>         Do we have to have annual inspections / tags if they are there?
>
>         If this turns out to be expensive maintenance (contractor hired,
> hoses replaced on a schedule, etc) can we simply eliminate them by removing
> the hoses?
>
>         If the cabinet is there with no hose rack and no hose, but a
> standpipe, do we have to PUT a hose in there, or is it considered a fixture
> for the fire service only in this context?
>
>         Should we provide training for college employees if these hoses are
> in their "workplace?"
>
>         Any other thoughts/comments?  These hoses are currently in areas of
> "concern" to us- the foodservice which has BC extinguishers and hood
> coverage but no A coverage, and our theatre department which at times has
> HUGE fuel load.
>
>         Thanks.
>
>         Jim Mossman
>         Fire Prevention
>         Saint Michael's College Safety & Security
>         One Winooski Park / Box 280
>         Colchester, VT 05439
>
>         8026542374
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