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Stuart Terrass <[log in to unmask]>
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Ohio Association for Institutional Research (Ohio AIR)
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Wed, 16 May 2001 13:57:13 -0400
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Jumping in, where the answer has already been given more than once, may I state that over and over again NCES has emphasized that no change should be made to "race/ethnicity" coding until there are specific guidelines established.  This message was delivered by all of us leading the training on IPEDS last year and nothing has changed.  There is to be additional training for IPEDS in the next few months.  Perhaps by then there may be some indication of when we may have a more definitive answer. [But don't count on it.]

If anyone feels they must do something before answers are forthcoming from "on high", I would suggest that you provide the means in your data system to provide the 120+ possible responses that could be made, even though there is little chance that this much precision will be required.

Stu

Stuart M. Terrass, Registrar
Mount Union College
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>>> [log in to unmask] 05/15/01 03:43PM >>>
Larry et al.,

At 01:02 PM 5/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Lu, et al.,
>
>It has been my understanding that we, as colleges, are in a holding
>pattern as to making the change from the old race/ethnicity codes
>to the new ones.  I know we at Columbus State have done nothing
>toward making the changes.  (I hope I'm not going out on a limb
>by saying this!  hehe)
>
>Is anyone else thinking the same as me?  Please say you are!   ;-)
>
>Larry


IR

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Seriously, though, we are in the same boat as everyone else--waiting
for an official word from both the feds and the OBR.

Bill


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