Hi Joan, Jordan, and everyone:

Joan is a more loyal ALSB person than many of our colleagues and has
probably attended more meetings than most of us!  I also found the dig at
ACLU really inappropriate as well as irrelevant, especially since of course
the First Amendment does not apply to the acts of private entities--which
anyone who teaches law ought to know.  I would suggest that the message that
provoked Joan "had it coming," especially in view of current events.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leibman, Jordan H.
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 9/18/2001 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Waving the flag

Dear ALSB Members,
I want you to know that I, Joan Leibman, wife of Jordan, was responsible
for
the angry and impolitic reply to the banned flag e-mail.  Jordan, being
a
lawyer, would never rush to judgement as I did.  Being devasted (as is
everyone) by the events of the past week, I was made even more uneasy
and
angry by the spreading of divisive rumors (true or not) to such a large
group of people at a time when we should be looking at the big picture,
and
how we can come together, not pick at truly small events.  I was also
angered by the not so implicit attack on the ACLU brought in for no
lawyerly
reason at all.  So forgive me for implusiveness in distress, and I won't
read any more ALSB e-mails.  (Thank goodness Jordan is retired or I
might
have ruined his career.)
Joan Leibman

-----Original Message-----
From: deb ballam [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Waving the flag


Hey, everyone.  I think we need to lighten up on Mike.  He sent the
message
asking us if he had heard the radio report correctly.  I would hope that
Mike, who I believe many of us know and consider a friend, could ask
this
question of us.

Deb Ballam

At 06:41 PM 09/17/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Jordan, well put!!
>
>Bruce Zucker
>
>"Leibman, Jordan H." wrote:
>
> > Nobody's banned the flag and you should think twice before passing
stupid
> > rumors around
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DANIEL HERRON [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:25 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Waving the flag
> >
> > Mike sent this out on alsbnews and I am redirecting it to ALSBTALK
> >
> > Dan
> > ______________________________
> >
> > Hello all,
> >      I heard, very fleetingly, on the news this morning that an
insurance
> > company in Boca Raton, FL has banned the display of flags on their
premises
> > and even suspended a woman who refused to remove a small flag from
her
> > desk.  Similarly, I think that I heard that a small college or
university
> > in Minnesota has also banned flags on campus.  Did I hear this
correctly?
> > If so, I truly hope that the ACLU defends the display of our flag
with
the
> > same fervor that they show when defending someone who burns the
flag.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michael A. Katz
> > Delaware State University
> > Department of Accounting and Finance
> > Dover, DE 19901
> > (302) 857-6918
> > (302) 857-6924 (fax)