Talmy Givon has developed a scale of irrealis that's worth looking at in this connection.  I don't have it here at home, but I'll send it off tomorrow.

 

Herb



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	Subject: "attend" and subjunctive

	

	



	To check whether your native-speaker intuitions really call for 

	subjunctive in such cases, try 'be' -- would you say "It's important 

	that we be quiet" or "It's important that we are quiet"? 



	Do people avoid the issue by saying "It's important for us to be quiet"? 



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