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Wow, this is getting too fancy for me.  "Who polls say has a lower rating" is an appositive?  Having shown a Reed-Kellogg of  diagram of this portion coul you possibly show a diagram of the (abbreviaed) whole thing, including "Pres. Bush is making adjustments. . .."?  Thanks!


-----Original Message-----
From:   Karl Hagen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Thu 5/12/2005 1:32 PM
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Subject:        Re: Help with parsing

It's a supplementary (i.e., nonrestrictive) relative, as well as an
appositive. It's what Huddleston and Pullum call a "fused relative" --
that is, the relative element is both the head of the entire appositive
(which is thus an NP) and the subject of the embedded relative clause.

Karl Hagen
Department of English
Mount St. Mary's College


Kischner, Michael wrote:
> Karl:
>
> Could you tell me how you see the relation of "Polls say (that) who has
> a rating" to what I would call the main clause -- "President Bush is
> making adjustments. . ."?
>
> MK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Hagen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:47 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Help with parsing
>
> The relative clause is embedded inside the content clause, and 'who'
> comes from the subject of the content clause. It's reasonably common for
> the relative pronoun to originate inside an embedded clause like this.
> Ignoring the modifiers of 'rating', a Reed-Kellogg would look something
> like this (view in a fixed-font):
>
>
>                (that)
>                ------
>                  .
>                  .
>            who | . has | rating
>            ----+---------------
>                  |
>                  |
>   polls | say | / \
> -------+------------
>         |
>
> Karl Hagen
> Department of English
> Mount St. Mary's College
>
>
> Kischner, Michael wrote:
>
>>A colleague asked about this sentence:
>>
>> "President Bush, who polls say has the lowest approval rating any
>>second-term President, is making adjustments to his Social Security
>>proposal."
>>
>>The "who" seems to introduce a relative (adjectival) clause, but that
>>"who" also seems to introduce the noun clause that's the direct object
>
>
>>of "Polls say."  I guess the question is about the "Polls say" clause.
>>I can't make a Reed-Kellogg diagram of it work.
>>
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