Craig, Bill, Ben, and others,
Thanks for these great suggestions. Believe it or not (great minds . . .), I had already thought of the "perusing conference programs" approach, and I plan to do exactly that with the upcoming NCTE program, which I will not be able to attend. Same for 4Cs, because even if I attend, I won't be able to make every session. I think it's a great idea to email these presenters and ask them to consider submitting their material for publication. Some will, some won't, but it is still a good thing to do. I also very much like the "grad student" approach, because they write papers every semester. Some of them are sure to relate to grammar in some way.
Regarding the perplexity you feel as to why more people do not seek to publish in our journal, I suspect that it has to do with 2 things: (1) the natural inertia that has to be overcome to get something into publishable form, and (2) the narrow scope of our subject matter. Not everyone is interested in grammar, and some would not want to admit it, even if they were--there would be political fallout. But, as I said at the conference, we have enough members to keep our *journal* (and that's what it is) well supplied with good, solid articles.
Thanks for this good discussion,
Tim
Tim Hadley
Research Assistant, The Graduate School
Ph.D. candidate, Technical Communication and Rhetoric
Texas Tech University
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From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Craig Hancock
Sent: Thu 7/21/2005 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Thanks for a great ATEG conference
Bill,
Those are fine suggestions, and I would echo them. It continues to be
strange to me that the journal does not become more like a journal, that
when all across the country people are hungry to publish in refereed
journals, this one is continuously sparse. Maybe you're right; maybe
we're not beating the bush.>Another concern is that it goes out to
members, a very small group in the scheme of things. Perhaps some
thought should be given to extend a subscription base or publishing on
line.
I value a number of articles in past issues very much and have used
them in presentations and referred to them in our talks, but I haven't
seen much of that from the membership. Perhaps when an issue comes
out we should make it part of our conversation. At times I wonder if I
am one of the few people reading it.
I think Tim has the energy to push things forward if we keep giving
support.
Craig
Hi, Tim:
>
> I've been intending to respond to your call for papers, but with a
> suggestion rather than a paper. This comes from the fact that Syntax
> in the Schools is more like a newsletter than a journal, despite
> efforts to upgrade it. I don't see that situation changing anytime
> soon.
>
> Anyhow, this suggestion comes from a former editor of several
> academic newsletters. It is that an editor needs to seek submissions,
> not just invite them. I would never have had enough material to
> publish if I had waited for people to submit it.
>
> One way is to go to CCCC and attend all of the sessions that look
> related to your interests. Then invite any presenters that seem to
> have something worth publishing to submit a paper. Sometimes the
> paper can be the exact one read at the conference; other times it can
> be an adaptation or one written from scratch.
>
> Another way is to take the CCC program home with you and comb through
> it for likely-looking papers. Then you can write to the presenter and
> request a copy of the paper without making any commitment to publish
> it. If it's good, then you can ask to publish the paper or an
> adaptation. (Of course, you can also do this with other conferences,
> especially ATEG, NCTE, or even one in linguistics. You don't need to
> go to the conferences; just ask to borrow programs from friends who
> go.)
>
> For book reviews, identify four or five people who can do a good job
> and then ask that they review books. You can obtain books to review
> by getting on the mailing lists of NCTE and other publishers. Many
> publishers will give you free books to review if you request them.
>
> Just some ideas.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>>Dear ATEGers,
>>
>>Thanks to everyone who attended the 16th Annual Conference in
>>Chicago for making my *first ever* ATEG conference an enjoyable and
>>delightful experience. It was a great thrill for me to meet so many
>>of you whose names I have known from the listserv and whose books
>>and articles I have read.
>>
>>And thanks especially for making me feel so welcome as the new
>>editor of our journal. There is a lot of work to be done, but many
>>have expressed a willingness to help. So, consider this a CALL FOR
>>SUBMISSIONS. We need articles, book reviews, and other relevant
>>content. Send book reviews to Marshall Myers at Eastern Kentucky
>>University ([log in to unmask]). Send all other submissions to
>>me at Texas Tech University ([log in to unmask]). When you submit
>>something, please submit double-spaced manuscripts in Microsoft Word
>>.doc or .rtf format, sent as email attachments.
>>
>>We hope to have the next issue out sometime in September. In the
>>meantime, I'm eager to hear your ideas about how we can make our
>>journal/newsletter serve our organization better.
>>
>>Thanks again for a great conference,
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>Tim Hadley
>>Research Assistant, The Graduate School
>>Ph.D. candidate, Technical Communication and Rhetoric
>>Texas Tech University
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