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"Rajesh Nair (rajnair)" <[log in to unmask]>
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Perfigo SecureSmart and CleanMachines Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
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Point taken - loud and clear!!! :-) 

SNMP it is.  We will, in all probability, do this via SNMPv3 with
auth&privacy turned on.  More details after 3.6. 

Regards,
-Rajesh.

P.S.  Thanks to everyone for your feedback. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Perfigo SecureSmart and CleanMachines Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Kissler
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:38 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CCA Metrics and Reporting (was Re: WGA validation
incomplete)

I think one of the keys here is that we are all used to dealing with
network equipment that works w/ SNMP. All the tools we're using are
based upon it. At least I don't really have any good tools readily
available to interface with the http API. It's fundamentally a neat idea
and far more flexible in a way, but the tools I have don't work for it
since they are geared towards working with routers/switches/etc.

-S


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> From: "Rajesh Nair (rajnair)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CCA Metrics and Reporting (was Re: WGA validation 
> incomplete)
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> That was our reasoning in providing the API.  But, sounds like the 
> HTTPS-based API requires too much scripting and folks would prefer
SNMP.
>
> -Rajesh.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perfigo SecureSmart and CleanMachines Discussion List 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cal Frye
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: CCA Metrics and Reporting (was Re: WGA validation
> incomplete)
>
> Yeah, most often I'm after historical data. SYSLOG!?!? There are too 
> many required interfaces for this system, that's my point. From 
> syslog, I can't revoke his registration, adjust his bandwidth, or 
> switch roles (such as place a miscreant into my copyright violator 
> role, given his IP address initially).
>
> --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
>    www.ouuf.org, www.calfrye.com
>    Say Yes Twice for Oberlin Schools!   www.oberlinyesyes.com
>
>   "There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our
children.
> One is roots; the other, wings." -- Hodding Carter.
>
>
> Rajesh Nair (rajnair) wrote:
> > Cal,
> >
> > User id, IP and MAC for online users is all in the online user list.
> > This info is available through API as well and the Online user page 
> > is
>
> > searchable as well.  Are you refering to historic searchability?
i.e.
> > users who might have logged in and out in the past?  If so, syslog 
> > might be a better place to do this search.
> >
> > Yes, I am aware that the scan/agent reports should also be available

> > from one place... That we can try to do sooner than the full
> reporting.
> >
> > -Rajesh.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Perfigo SecureSmart and CleanMachines Discussion List 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cal Frye
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:17 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: CCA Metrics and Reporting (was Re: WGA validation
> > incomplete)
> >
> > I would like one place to go to to search for a user, knowing any 
> > ONE of the
> > following:
> > userid, IP address, MAC address
> > and returning all information on the user the system knows, 
> > including scan reports and log entries.
> >
> > It's all in there, sure, but the number of times I begin a search in

> > the DHCP records to find the corresponding MAC address is way too
> many.
> >
> > --Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
> >    www.ouuf.org, www.calfrye.com
> >    Say Yes Twice for Oberlin Schools!   www.oberlinyesyes.com
> >
> >   "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times 
> > of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." -- Dante.
> >
>

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Simon Kissler                                   [log in to unmask]
UNIX Systems Administrator			Phone: (219) 464 6773
Electronic Information Services                 Fax  : (219) 464 5381
Valparaiso University
Kretzmann Hall B22
Valparaiso, IN 46383
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