Phil and Bill both make important points, and Phil's note about the transitivity of credit for coming up with good terms is well taken.  What this question illustrates nicely is the limitations on categories.  Yes, there are clearly complex transitive structures, like "They named her their representative."  But what about "I saw him leave"?  Quirk et al. use the codes S(ubject), V(erb), O(bject), and C(omplement) for defining verb types.  Ditransitives are SVOO, and Complex Transitives are SVOC.  But their SVOC covers verbs like "name", "see", and even "force", as in "They forced us to leave."  In my opinion that's too broad a classification, but the problem with narrowing it is that there really isn't any principled place to stop in analyzing data into finer and finer categories.  So the question is what the most useful categories are.  And that depends largely on what we want to use them for.

Overall, in verb categorization I've found as few as five or six in some of the standard grammars, fifty in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary and the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, and about 330 in Beth Levin's (1993) English Verb Patterns and Alternations.

Herb


 
Making up new terminology, even new punctuation is legitimate of course, but it doesn't count as much until it is published in a refereed journal.  I personally like the term translinking and agree that it is better than complex transitive.  However, I am not sure that it is immediately apparant that the term is a cross between transitive and linking.  A hyphen might make this more apparant and the word more acceptable as "trans-linking."  Given the general formality of grammar, perhaps even a hyphenated "transitive-linking" may be better.  In any case, it is your term, but if it catches on without your having published it somewhere first, you may not get proper credit for it.  Worse yet, some less disciplined author may try and publish it without proper refernce.  

Phil Bralich

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Spruiell, William C" <[log in to unmask]>
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>I use "complex transitive," but to me, that term can cover other types
>of constructions as well -- it seems like a "none of the above" label
>devised to deal with anything other than linking, transitive, or
>ditransitive. 
>
>What I'd *like* to call the object complement constructions is
>"translinking," since I think it captures their structure better. For
>some reason, though, there appears to be a wholly-unfounded resistance
>to the idea that I, personally, can make up entirely new sets of grammar
>terminology. 
>
>Bill Spruiell
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>-----Original Message-----
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>That term is used pretty widely in both pedagogical and standard
>reference grammars.
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>Herb
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>From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of Dallin
>Oaks
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>I have seen the term "complex transitive" verb.
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>Is there a term to describe verbs that can take both a direct object and
>an
>object complement such as the following:
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>we made Mary happy
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>we called John, the boss.
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>I know that ditransitives are variously called ditransitives and double
>object verbs but do not know the term for the above.  Further, is there
>a
>term for a double object verb that also takes an object complement as in
>the
>following?  
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>we 
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>-----Original Message----- 
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>I am very interested in the results of your research.  Is there any way
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>Thank you.
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>Alison Cochrane
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