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Sally Gunz <[log in to unmask]>
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Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk
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Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:13:46 -0400
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Dear Folks:

I am an old fart. As a Canadian I have also been holding off making a 
comment on today's exchanges -- as in not really my business.

However, I couldn't help laying bets as to when we would reach a point 
that  the suggestion would be made to need to change protocols. This is 
not a reflection on your email at all David. But rather that I am 
really, really old and have been through this debate many times. Yes, 
probably people should be warned. But to be honest, the header is pretty 
descriptive.

Note to all: when you get a header that talks about lies and distortions 
about anything, it is likely political and you may not want to read it. 
In which case, hit delete.

Please also note: in no way is this intended to be sarcastic. It is just 
a feeble attempt to remind everyone that headers are descriptive and if 
you don't want to participate, exercise your rights and don't.

I think that is the protocol????

Sally



David Canarie wrote:
> Thank you for you post, Tom, which I'm sure expressed the thoughts of many readers of this list.  I have to say that reading the various posts with name calling and attacks darkened my day.
>
> What's happened to respectful discourse?  Instead, it seems that debaters not only have to utterly destroy their opponent's arguments, they want to show that their opponent ought to be ashamed of themselves for even espousing those thoughts in the first place.
>
> I'd really appreciate it if these political discussions could be accompanied by the words "Political Discussion" in the subject line (as I though was supposed to be the practice) so I can simply delete them unread.  I like political discussions...but that's not why I subscribed to this site.
>
> ____________________________
> J. David Canarie, Jr, Esq.
> Instructor, Business Law
> Saint Joseph's College of Maine
> 278 White's Bridge Road
> Standish, ME 04084-5263
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> ____________________________
> J. David Canarie, Jr, Esq.
> Instructor, Business Law
> Saint Joseph's College of Maine
> 278 White's Bridge Road
> Standish, ME 04084-5263
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> ________________________________
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Thomas Cavenagh [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:23 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Distortions and lies about health care reform
>
> Colleagues:
>
> I am not one who thinks our list would be improved by rules related to postings.  I am pleased with a wide-ranging discussion, including one with political themes, and can hit 'delete' when necessary.  I think many of us who don't post regularly, but read often, feel similarly.  However, this particular post does prompt me to make a suggestion:  if the post you plan on submitting is indistinguishable from the anti-intellectual shouting that dominates our political discourse, exercise some self-censorship.  Reasonable people can disagree about the merits and demerits of the new health care law.  But, I don't think any of us would accept the wild over-generalizations ("Republicans only care ...") and ad hominem ("idiotic chickens ...") this post contains from our freshmen - nor should we from one another.
>
> Tom
>
> Thomas D. Cavenagh, JD
> Schneller Sisters Professor of Leadership, Ethics & Values
> Professor of Law & Conflict Resolution
> North Central College
> 30 North Brainard Street
> Naperville, Illinois 60540
> 630-637-5157
> 630-637-5224 (fax)
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>>>> On 10/24/2010 at 9:55 PM, in message <1B354F458341A94A8CDCBA8D7505300121D97A827A@mail>, "Storch, Robert" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>         
> Republicans only care about people right before they're born and right before they die.  In between-----you're on your own.
>
> EVERY major piece of legislation that has helped non-wealthy people in the past 100 years have come from Democrats, whether it be social security, minimum wage, worker's compensation, unemployment compensation, fair housing, voting rights, civil rights, family leave, the NLRA that allows workers to unionize, etc.
>
> For the life of me I will never understand why there are so many idiotic chickens who will go and vote for Colonel Sanders.
> ________________________________________
> From: Academy of Legal Studies in Business (ALSB) Talk [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bill Shaw [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 8:19 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Distortions and lies about health care reform
>
> Health Care and the Campaign<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/opinion/24sun1.html?th&emc=th>
> Republicans and special interests are spreading so many distortions and lies about health care reform that it is little wonder if voters are anxious and confused.
>
> This is the kind of thing that may result in a Republican Congress . . . how soon they forget.
>   

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