I've used a couple of Talmy's books in graduate grammar classes, but never in undergraduate. The English Grammar is an excellent piece, but I wouldn't try it with my undergrads here. By the way, I also like his Functionalism and Grammar, which I used a couple of years ago in an advanced grad grammar course in contrastive analysis. It worked very well, although even those students found it demanding. Herb Stahlke <<< [log in to unmask] 10/18 5:58p >>> Another very interesting reference on English grammar -- for the ambitious and not easily daunted -- is Talmy Givon's 'English Grammar: A Function-Based Introduction', John Benjamins. It is a 2-volume set organized in outline form, with explanations and examples of numerous phenomena of English Grammar. And then of course there is the massive 'A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language', by Randolph Quirk, Sidney Greenbaum, Geoffrey Leech and Jan Svartvik (Longman). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Johanna Rubba Assistant Professor, Linguistics English Department, California Polytechnic State University One Grand Avenue * San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 Tel. (805)-756-2184 * Fax: (805)-756-6374 * Dept. Phone. 756-259 * E-mail: [log in to unmask] * Home page: http://www.cla.calpoly.edu/~jrubba ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~