From: Dick B <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Research on United Christian Endeavor Society Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:13:46 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7079_1085062074_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7079_1085062074_1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. Thanks so much for posting my article on Christian Endeavor. The copy I sent was chopped up in transmission, but it gets the points across. 2. I'd like to launch an appeal here for information on Christian Endeavor and Temperance and also on any real scholarly commentaries on the society, comparable perhaps to Clark's History of the Oxford Group and those on the Washingtonians. 3. Richard K. and I devoting a great deal of time to the Christian Endeavor research because it is so much more relevant to the early A.A. program as it reached Akron from Dr. Bob's youth. When the last bell tolls, historians will wake up to the fact that there are two A.A. histories - the history of the early program in Akron which took its ideas from the Bible and its simple practices from those used by Christian Endeavor and so familiar to Dr. Bob; the history of the Big Book program Bill Wilson fashioned on his own in 1938 based largely on the teachings of Rev. Sam Shoemaker. 4. Christian Endeavor had all the "warts" that Bill condemned in the Oxford Group and in the Washingtonians. The primary distinguishing factors included decisions for Christ, reliance on the Creator, Bible as source and for study, prayer meetings, and the "Quiet Hour." Any commentaries or suggestions are welcome. We found so many problems in the new materials on Rowland Hazard that this Akron/CE emphasis is particularly topical. Respectfully, Dick B., Kihei, Maui, Hawaii ([log in to unmask]). --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7079_1085062074_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C43D8B.75D94BE0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PersonName"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:UseWord2002TableStyleRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState=3D"false" LatentStyleCount=3D"156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} /* List Definitions */ @list l0 {mso-list-id:636492302; mso-list-type:hybrid; mso-list-template-ids:504258906 67698703 67698713 67698715 67698703 = 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715;} @list l0:level1 {mso-level-tab-stop:.5in; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-.25in;} ol {margin-bottom:0in;} ul {margin-bottom:0in;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <ol style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D1 type=3D1> <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list = .5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks so much for posting my article on Christian Endeavor. The copy I = sent was chopped up in transmission, but it gets the points = across.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list = .5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’d like to launch an appeal here for <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">info</st1:PersonName>rmation on Christian Endeavor and Temperance and also on = any<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> </ol> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> </span>real scholarly commentaries on the society, comparable perhaps to <st1:place = w:st=3D"on">Clark</st1:place>’s History of the Oxford Group <span = style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> </span>and those on the Washingtonians.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <ol style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D3 type=3D1> <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list = .5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Richard K. and I devoting a great deal of time to the Christian Endeavor = research because it is so much more relevant to the early A.A. program as it reached <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place = w:st=3D"on">Akron</st1:place></st1:City> from Dr. Bob’s youth. When the last bell tolls, historians = will wake up to the fact that there are two A.A. histories – the = history of the early program in Akron which took its ideas from the Bible and = its simple practices from those used by Christian Endeavor and so = familiar to Dr. Bob; the history of the <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Big = Book</st1:PersonName> program <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Bill</st1:PersonName> Wilson = fashioned on his own in 1938 based largely on the teachings of Rev. Sam = Shoemaker.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list = .5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Christian Endeavor had all the “warts” that <st1:PersonName = w:st=3D"on">Bill</st1:PersonName> condemned in the Oxford Group and in the Washingtonians. The = primary distinguishing factors included decisions for Christ, reliance on = the Creator, Bible as source and for study, prayer meetings, and the = “Quiet Hour.” <o:p></o:p></span></font></li> </ol> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any commentaries or = suggestions are welcome. We found so many problems in the new materials = on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Rowland Hazard that this = Akron/CE emphasis is particularly topical.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Respectfully, Dick B., = Kihei, <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Maui</st1:City>, <st1:State = w:st=3D"on">Hawaii</st1:State></st1:place> (<a = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></= font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> </body> </html> --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7079_1085062074_1--