From:    Dick B <[log in to unmask]>
To:    [log in to unmask]
Subject:    Research on United Christian Endeavor Society
Date:    Wed, 19 May 2004 21:13:46 +0000
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1.      Thanks so much for posting my article on Christian Endeavor. The
copy I sent was chopped up in transmission, but it gets the points across.
2.      I'd like to launch an appeal here for information on Christian
Endeavor and Temperance and also on any
      real scholarly commentaries on the society, comparable perhaps to
Clark's History of the Oxford Group       and those on the Washingtonians.
3.      Richard K. and I devoting a great deal of time to the Christian
Endeavor research because it is so much more relevant to the early A.A.
program as it reached Akron from Dr. Bob's youth. When the last bell tolls,
historians will wake up to the fact that there are two A.A. histories - the
history of the early program in Akron which took its ideas from the Bible
and its simple practices from those used by Christian Endeavor and so
familiar to Dr. Bob; the history of the Big Book program Bill Wilson
fashioned on his own in 1938 based largely on the teachings of Rev. Sam
Shoemaker.
4.      Christian Endeavor had all the "warts" that Bill condemned in the
Oxford Group and in the Washingtonians. The primary distinguishing factors
included decisions for Christ, reliance on the Creator, Bible as source and
for study, prayer meetings, and the "Quiet Hour."
Any commentaries or suggestions are welcome. We found so many problems in
the new materials on
Rowland Hazard that this Akron/CE emphasis is particularly topical.
Respectfully, Dick B., Kihei, Maui, Hawaii ([log in to unmask]).


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across.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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w:st=3D"on">info</st1:PersonName>rmation
     on Christian Endeavor and Temperance and also on =
any<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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face=3DArial><span
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scholarly commentaries on the society, comparable perhaps to <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Clark</st1:place>&#8217;s
History of the Oxford Group <span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>and
those on the Washingtonians.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Richard
     K. and I devoting a great deal of time to the Christian Endeavor =
research
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     reached <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Akron</st1:place></st1:City>
     from Dr. Bob&#8217;s youth. When the last bell tolls, historians =
will wake
     up to the fact that there are two A.A. histories &#8211; the =
history of
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its
     simple practices from those used by Christian Endeavor and so =
familiar to
     Dr. Bob; the history of the <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Big =
Book</st1:PersonName>
     program <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Bill</st1:PersonName> Wilson =
fashioned
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     condemned in the Oxford Group and in the Washingtonians. The =
primary
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the
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&#8220;Quiet
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any commentaries or =
suggestions are
welcome. We found so many problems in the new materials =
on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Rowland Hazard that this =
Akron/CE
emphasis is particularly topical.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Respectfully, Dick B., =
Kihei, <st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Maui</st1:City>, <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">Hawaii</st1:State></st1:place>
(<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

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