I guess that the collections of non-cataloged items that exist today may also be preserved for "ever" without ever cataloging them, but Should they not be considered a finite set of collections? I mean, are we still creating such collections for long? Are we not supposed to be producing more and more collections of e-records that come with their own encapsulated metadata along? Historical archives would then be caring for self described objects. I believe many librarians are already working in the preservation of digital collections that might have been considered archival collections in the past. Might be also that archivists end up loosing their jobs after a while if they don't work as or together with the digital librarians and the like. Maria Maria J. del Olmo Document Management Officer European Commission - DG Environment -----Original Message----- From: Archives & Archivists [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lucas. Arel Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Classification Schemes--Was The L Word This is an interesting side to this topic. I've got access to the ALA Journal again now and see that librarians are officially considering giving up the LC Subject Guide! That would be a shift akin to the geologists recognizing plate tectonics, a world-changing sort of thing. Google has caused much rethinking and more will result, I'm sure, of classification schemes. I've also seen criticism of the finding-aid scheme, although group-level cataloging won't go away as long as archives are focused on collections of documents (and sometimes objects) with thousands of items that we will never have time to catalog even if we wanted to. Arel (the usual disclaimers) Arel Lucas Archives/Special Collections Librarian Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Prescott Campus -----Original Message----- From: Archives & Archivists [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott, Kim Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:54 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The L Word Pointing out how different you are from the people you work with is a bad idea in any profession. I think the basic definitions and qualifications of librarians and archivists are changing as we speak, and that they are drawing ever closer together. Archivists are moving away from group level description in the digital environment because the format demands the creation of individual item cataloging records (or call it "metadata" if you prefer.) Librarians are finding their "catalogs" have no relevance to the younger generation who have no analog format to compare it to. In my opinion, this medium we use to communicate and store information is changing everything. For better or worse I don't know. Kim Allen Scott Special Collections Librarian AND University Archivist Montana State University, Bozeman A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>