Eric, Thank you for saying what I didn't! "Nevertheless, if he believes that the MLS/MLIS/MSLS/MSLIS or whatever they call it is going to give us archivists and rare book librarians the training that WE need, then he is sadly mistaken. Who learns about Schellenberg or macroappraisal in an ALA-approved MLS/MLIS/MSLS/MSLIS program? Not many, I dare say." and "But to add: > in this case we're talking about the MLIS. < is like saying that one needs an M.D. to practice law or a J.D. to practice medicine. The formal educational requirements of a basic knowledge of history, languages, preservation and conservation skills, etc. are all reasonable and legitimate for a potential employer of an archivist or a rare book librarian to demand. But does the MLS/MLIS/MSLS/MSLIS in general satisfy these requirements? No. The usual formal requirements for archivists and rare book librarians need to be revised for relevancy and the MLS/MLIS/MSLS/MSLIS requirement specifically needs to be eliminated. Ça ira!" Sincerely, Elizabeth Fairfax, M.A.,C.A. (for what they are worth) -----Original Message----- From: Eric v.d. Luft, Ph.D., M.L.S., Curator of Historical Collections [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: degree requirements are good and necessary Dana is absolutely right to say: A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>