Quoth Peter: " While all the talk about archival theory is great and good, what I haven't heard anyone talk about is classes about project planning, budgeting, marketing etc. All areas that one can use in archives." I had classes in archival management, project planning, budgeting (including grant-writing) and outreach (as well as archival theory) at Pitt, and I'm sure other programs have them as well. And yes, they have been very useful, especially on days (like today) that I have the vague feeling I should have a shiny orange vest and a glowing stick to help me direct traffic. Jennifer McGillan Archivist Jewish Historical Society of MetroWest 901 Route 10 East Whippany, NJ 07981 (973) 929-2995 -----Original Message----- From: Archives & Archivists [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Kurilecz Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Education, certification and the job market This has been a really interesting discussion. sort of like the "how many angels fit on the head of a pin" discussion that theologians would have. Folks in records management are amazed at the amount of education one must have for a profession that rarely pays north of the $25k boundary. While all the talk about archival theory is great and good, what I haven't heard anyone talk about is classes about project planning, budgeting, marketing etc. All areas that one can use in archives. One thing to remember is that education does not stop when you get the sheepskin. A good professional will always seek out additional training in order to expand their knowledge base and their skillset. Someone mentioned that certification is also another avenue. consider becoming a certified archivist or certified records manager, or getting your CDIA+ designation. Thirty years ago I would have laughed if you told me I would be working for a computer software company and learning the inner-workings of the software. Little did I know then that I would be learning how to configure a software system, learning how to write rules and process flows in order to capture records to ensure their authenticity, integrity, useability, etc well before they would be seen by an archivist. so if you feel that your skills are not being fully appreciated consider looking at the other side of the fence. Come on over to records management, where the opportunities are many and the pay is very good. ;-) peterk -- Peter Kurilecz CRM CA Richmond, Va A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> A posting from the Archives & Archivists LISTSERV List sponsored by the Society of American Archivists, www.archivists.org. For the terms of participation, please refer to http://www.archivists.org/listservs/arch_listserv_terms.asp. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] In body of message: SUB ARCHIVES firstname lastname *or*: UNSUB ARCHIVES To post a message, send e-mail to [log in to unmask] Or to do *anything* (and enjoy doing it!), use the web interface at http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/archives.html Problems? Send e-mail to Robert F Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>