Richard, Thanks a lot. Your comments are right to the point. I noticed too, that "there is no conducting a civil discourse with some people," on this forum and that "efforts to reply reasonably only result in escalating craziness." This has been my personal experience, and the experience of other members of this forum with Johanna Rubba. No matter what "her contributions to this list" have been, even, as you like to call them,"exptionally informative," Rubba has not right to atack, abuse, and harass people. Instead of suggesting to the forum members to ISOLATE the "detractors" you should write a private note to her in which you advise her to be civil and behaved. That would show that you are sensitive to others, caring, and considerate, just as an educator should be. Do you abuse, mistreat, and harass your students? How about members of your faculty, or your family? I hope you don't. The abuse must stop. Maybe then we can get back to talking about grammar. Right? Eduard On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Richard Veit wrote... >As someone who has not participated in this unfortunate "discussion," I >want to express my appreciation for Joanna's contributions to this list, >which I have found exceptionally informative. > >As for her detractor(s?), there is no conducting a civil discourse with >some people, and efforts to reply reasonably only result in escalating >craziness. I strongly urge that we bring an end to this pettiness. The >only way to do that is to resolutely ignore posts from such people. Just >do not reply, no matter how provoking the comments. Just do not reply. > >Maybe then we can get back to talking about grammar. > >Dick Veit > >To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html >and select "Join or leave the list" > >Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/ To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/