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Yes.  Deus and gladius are both 2nd declension nouns, so when the end in -o
they can either be in the dative case ("to/for") or the ablative ("with/by
means of").  Here the ablative case makes a lot more sense = "with God and
the sword"/"by God and the sword".

Regards,
Tom Bruno
Widener Library
Harvard University
(and they said a degree in Classics would never amount to anything!)


On 7/26/06, Lucas. Arel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>   Yes, but there's something else in there due to the cases.  The nouns
> without inflection are "Deus" and "Gladius."  "Deo" and "Gladio" are
> inflected nouns that imply what we call prepositions.  See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_%28A%E2%80%93E%29  and
> scroll down to phrases beginning with "Deo" to see some examples.  Your
> phrase should translate as something like "To" or "With" "God and the
> Sword."
>
>
>
> (my own ignorance only, as usual)
>
> Arel Lucas, C.A.
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> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
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> Barbara,
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> I don't know much about Latin, but it looks like gladio is latin for sword
> (a form of gladius) and your motto was "God and sword" (I've absorbed a bit
> from working in a church library).  Hopefully someone else can confirm this.
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>
>
> Melissa Martinez
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> *From:* Niss, Barbara <[log in to unmask]>
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> *To:* [log in to unmask]
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:45 AM
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> *Subject:* Latin help
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> OK, I have looked and looked and can't seem to figure this out.  I know it
> will be appallingly easy for those folks out there who actually took Latin,
> but please take pity on me and help anyway.
>
>
>
> I am trying to translate the motto on the insignia for Mount Sinai's
> affiliated hospital unit in World War II, the Third General Hospital.   The
> words are "Deo et Gladio".  I have my guess on what I think it means, but
> since I am using this in a public display, I would actually like to be
> correct.
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>
> Any help would be appreciated!
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>
> Barbara
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> Barbara J. Niss
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