A carload of us went up to see the ruff at BIWA; Dan and Doreene were still there, having watched the bird fly from one body of water to another near Herr Rd. About ten of us looked around, and finally Dan refound it near the small ponds to the *south* of 95 So the bird moves around. The place from which we all watched it was atop the railroad bed four telephone poles west of Herr. We put a big arrow made of railroad spikes across the ties there pointing toward the location, for what that's worth. The bird is black above, white below, divided at mid breast, and there is rufous on the upper throat and a complete white ring around the bill base, and red-orange legs. It was chasing off yellowlegs, occasionally fluffing its ruff. A stunning creature. If you go, prepare to inspect all the ponds with care, and be careful of auto and train traffic. East of Herr is BIWA land, and there are dike trails around it; a pull-off is on the east side of this area where the treeline ends at 95. good luck if you go, Bill Whan ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]