I had a chance to briefly check out the lake this morning before having to head out. I watched from 7:30-8:45. I thought there might be some movement ahead of the front. Not to be. It was extremely quiet. I saw one distant duck that was too far out for identification and about 30 herring and ring-billed gulls and that was about it. I checked out Lorain Harbor this morning about 11:00 and then about 3:30. Things there were also very quiet. There were a few hundred gulls and cormorants out on the outer breakwalls. Not much flying around. Only birds of note were 6 dunlin and an American pipit all west of the river. John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 (440) 259-2751 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]