I was fortunate to see both birds today while up in Ashtabula. The owl was seen from the Concrete Bridge as previously reported. I spotted the BTGU in the water near the boat launch at Lake Shore Park. It was with a group of mixed gulls and it was only about 100 yds. away. After I had an extended look, the gull took flight and I was able to see great views of it as it flew back towards the blue buildings. A nice, late Christmas present indeed. See you on the trails, Chris Pierce N. Olmsted, OH ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]