These are terrible digiscope pictures from noon today at LaDue. http://www.flickr.com/photos/85567104@N05/ I only post them because some people were hoping for close enough views to rule out Clark's Grebe. From my Sibley and Audubon guides I would say this is Western and not Clark's but I will leave it to those more experienced than me. The pictures may not be good enough to say yes or no. The goose with the white neck and head was interesting and I thought someone might suggest how this coloration might have come to be. It was feeding in the middle of a group of about 25 Canada Geese. Nice to see so many birding friends along Valley Road today! Hope all of us can do a little birding on Sunday. Matt Valencic Chagrin Falls, OH ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]