I've posted some shots of the dark mantled herring-type gull that was at East 72nd Street along with a shot of the great black-backed x herring gull hybrid for comparison. http://www.rarebird.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7114 <http://www.rarebird.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7114&PID=21620呴> &PID=21620呴 John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]