Many scoters are still present at Sims Park in Euclid in Cuyahoga county. There are over 50. The rollings waves made exact counts difficult. There were two large groups. I could only roughly estimate 28-30 Black Scoters, 20 Surf Scoters, and could only ID three White-winged that I first saw by themselves when I arrived today from 10:50 to 11:40am. There also was a Lesser Black-backed Gull flying close to the rocks. It had darker charcoal wings but not as large or black as a Great Blacked with red on the end of the yellow bill and brown streaking on the head and neck. A few Bonaparte's Gulls and hundreds of Red-breasted Mergansers is all that I could see that was different. Nancy Anderson Richmond Hts, OH ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]