Hi, So yesterday I posted about my perceptions of this year's breeding season around Kirtland. I was especially curious about the perceived lack of Wood Warblers, so I asked Mike Watson at Holden to look at my field notes from previous years. In past years I just kept track of presence absence in a given area and breeding evidence. This year I've switched to using eBird to track the results and so also keep track of numbers of individuals in each area during a visit. Using the previous criteria of occurrence we looked at results in the period from May 30 to June 15 from 2011 to 2015 for American Redstart and Black-throated Green Warbler, as follows: American Redstart presence May 30 - June 15 2011 - 6 2012 - 4 2013 - 2 2014 - 5 2015 - 3 Black-throated Green Warbler presence May 30 - June 15 2011 - 3 2012 - 4 2013 - 2 2014 - 2 2015 - 1 In each year I have covered 5 or 6 areas with appropriate habitat for these species during this 17 day period and keep in mind these are not numbers of individuals but presence on a day in a specific area. Based on those criteria the Redstart numbers are pretty normal and the Green numbers are low but not out of what would seem to be the normal range given the small sample. Yes I now wish I had kept quantitative data for those previous years but it wasn't what we were doing. So I'm just going with what I have. Haans ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]