Here is what I use to identify Cackling Geese. I think the paper is very informative and has good photos as well as showing where the Cackling Geese come from. http://www.utahbirds.org/RecCom/IDhelp/Cackling_Goose-NAB.pdf ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]