There is an ebird list for Lake County, Ohio that obviously has some problems. 32 species were supposedly seen at 8:45 P.M. on 10 December 2017. P. M. Species reported includes 7 species of owls, while not impossible, quite unlikely. Also multiple species of passerines at 8:45 P. M. Supposedly, 50 miles were traveled during the 30 minute birding. Which means the observer traveled 100 or more miles per hour while birding, in theory. Ebirds limits are only concerned with bird species reported and their rarity. There are no limits for time of day reported or how fast the observer was travelling. Ebird has potential to be quality but it has a long ways to go to get there. John Herman ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]