May 30,1995 In re david's messages about brian harrison's work Drink and the Victorians. Unfortunately it was published after Symbolic Crusade. I had been aware of the British movement through Frances Willard's relation to Lady Somerset.What Harrison did for me later was both his model of a truly thorough historian as compared to my thin study and, especially, his conception of the Temperance movement as part of the issue ofproper and improper leisure . This has been very useful in my thinking about the question of alternative cultures a la Gramsci and the role of drink in it.Several of my more recent work, including a forthcoming book, lean heavily on this conception. Also see his later collection of papers, several of which do deal with drinking and with leisure use-Peaceable Kingdom. Joe Gusfield