My request for alternative materials received some response, but it also raised the question of what "alternative" means as opposed to "main stream." In addition, there is no reason why ATEG shouldn't have a list of all books on grammar written by ATEG members. My idea with the "alternative" was to compile a list of materials that are not advertised by major publishers and thus are not generally known. (My reasoning, of course, includes promoting my own TGLA, but there are things other than mine that should also be more generally known and available.) Perhaps we should have three lists: 1.) Small publisher/self published/in house 2.) Materials from Major Publishers by ATEG Members 3.) All other All three lists should include things that are currently available. (This is not a bibliography.) The question is: what do you think? If you have materials for the first two lists, please send the information to me, including ISBN numbers for published books. On another topic: What happened to the discussion of subordinate clauses? I'm sure that I have not convinced everyone that I am right. Did the possibility of having comments in the newsletter scare people? What's up?