Well, I've messed around and I think the problem is with the kermit transfer. When I download a binary file with kermit I just type "SEND filename"and everything works fine. When I upload one I type "RECEIVE filename". Is kermit defaulting to some non-binary mode when I use the RECEIVE command, and if so how can I change this? I uploaded a file to the Vax and then downloaded it right away using the above commands and it became corrupted. Please Help. Thanks, Chad Nester