Edith: I have tried both Reed-Kellogg diagrams and tree diagrams in the English Composition classes I am teaching and I found out that the students find tree diagrams more intuitive and easier to understand than Reed-Kellogg diagrams. Have you had a chance to compare the two types of diagrams in classroom applications? As a curiosity, the students who had learned the tree diagrams with me were able to remember the tree diagramming a semester later during a grammar course taken with another instructor. As I don't believe that their retention was due to my extraordinary teaching skills, the only conclusion I can draw is that the students understood so well the tree diagram approach that they had no difficulty remembering it. Eduard On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Edith Wollin wrote... >Beth Rapp Brown's position on diagramming is certainly held by many >people, and I would certainly never use it as the only pedagogical >method for teaching grammar. However, I have found that the traditional >Reed and Kellogg diagrams (with some updating to fit more current >understandings of sentence syntax) help visual learners a great deal in >understanding the relationships amongst words in a sentence. I have >combined diagramming with sentence combining, writing one's own >sentences, using syntactic structures in context, etc. and have found it >very useful for student learning. > >Edith Wollin=20 To join or leave this LISTSERV list, please visit the list's web interface at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/ateg.html and select "Join or leave the list" Visit ATEG's web site at http://ateg.org/