Sorry, Helene, I think you've got it wrong. Precisely because she has
only one greatest short story, the title is a nonrestrictive appositive
and SHOULD be set off with commas.
I have only one brother: "My brother, Tony, owns a restaurant."
If I had two brothers, Tony and Andy: "My brother Tony owns a
restaurant."
". . . Her greatest story, "The Yellow Wallpaper," is about. . . " --
conforms to the first example.
-----Original Message-----
From: helene hoover [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: punctuation query
MK: Your example, "In her greatest short story 'The Yellow Wallpaper,'
Charlotte Perkins..." makes the title an appositive. Since there is only
one "greatest" short story, the appositive does NOT get commas around
it, but Johanna is right about the initial adverbial phrase, of course.
H Hoover
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>It seems that we are talking about restrictive and non-restrictive, but
>you can avoid it in this case by telling them that, if the writer has
>written only one story (or poem or whatever), you would set it off with
>commas. If the writer has written more than one, then one does not use
>commas. It gets a little more complicated when you start adding
>modifiers: "In her greatest short story, 'The Yellow Wallpaper,"
>Charlotte. . . " -- because she has written only one "greatest" short
>story. Or "In her story about kitchen remodels, 'The Yellow
>Wallpaper,". . . (sorry, Ive taught the story but just now totally
>forget what it was about!).
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jo Rubba [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:40 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: punctuation query
>
>Help! This is driving me nuts.
>
>My students don't know when to put a comma before the title of a book,
>story, poem, etc. I am having trouble figuring out the rule. I'm
>hoping it's not the standard restrictive - non-restrictive principle,
>because half of them don't get that. It seems to have to do with prior
>mention, but I can't formulate it. Here are some typical contexts:
>
>Charlotte Perkins' short story "The Yellow Wallpaper" portrays a woman
>going mad.
>In his poem "In Hardwood Groves", Robert Frost exploits the metaphor
>PEOPLE ARE PLANTS ...
>
>I know that commas around the story/poem title would be wrong; in the
>second context, the comma after the title is required to set off the
>initial adverbial phrase.
>
>Most commonly, my students use the comma(s) when they should not. Is
>there a straighforward explanation for this? Please don't tell me I
>have to explain noun complementation or restrictive/non-restrictive
>appositives ... please ...
>
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