Two things: 1.) I am compiling a list of non-mainstream materials for teaching grammar. The list will be available from ATEG, and I also intend to include it in mailings advertising my own stuff. (I already include a flyer advertising ATEG.) I'm interested in anything (free or for sale). For example, I know of at least two books which were written for specific courses, are duplicated on campus, and are sold through campus bookstores. Please help add to the list. ATEG claims that there are alternatives to "traditional grammar." We need to start showing more than those that have been picked up by major publishers. By the way, if someone has, or would like to compile, a list of all the grammar texts currently available, I'm sure there would also be interest in that list. 2.) FYI: Following Reinhold's suggestion, I have been cutting and pasting all the messages "Re: Subordinate Clauses" for possible inclusion in the newsletter. I encourage more people to join in the discussion. Thanks, Ed V