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Ed Vavra's question, asking how we identify those to whom we teach
grammar: a) it is not a problem for those who believe that grammar
(metalanguage issues) ought to be taught only in elective courses, where
the student decides whether to study it; b) start wherever you believe
students should start and end.  If 3-graduate school, 1-life, or 3-8
(which is the most common in schools), then one can specify.  What we
can't do, I think, is assume that everyone believes the same about it.
Yes?