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Gerald Walton <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Pence and Emery call them "verb + adverb" and "verb + preposition" 
combinations, making a clear distinction between adverbs and 
prepositions used thus:
"Sometimes an adverb such as up, down, in, out, is so closely welded 
to a preceding verb that a following substantive is really the object 
of the verb plus the adverb rather than of the verb alone." Says can 
easily be switched to passive voice. Uses examples "He put down the 
rebellion in short order," "I  have closed out my business," and 
"They have put off the play." Position of down can be shifted; 
position of out may be shifted, etc.

They then say essentially the same thing about "verb + preposition 
combinations." preposition "is almost a suffix of the verb." "...some 
intransitive verbs become transitive when such a preposition is 
closely welded to them...." Gives these examples;
They laughed at me
I cannot put up with your conduct any longer

Gerald

At 02:56 PM 3/24/2009, Bruce Despain wrote:
>My personal preference is adverbial particle and prepositional 
>particle. These terms are probably due to our grounding in 
>traditional grammar and its parts of speech. The term "determiner" 
>has been split out of the traditional "limiting adjective." Particle 
>seems to do the same sort of thing, but applies to several classes.
>
>Bruce
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Beth Young
>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:30 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Phrasal Verb Overview
>
>I guess I would call any multi-word verb a phrasal verb, whether it 
>used adverb-like words or preposition-like words. Is there another, 
>better descriptor for them? "Phrasal verb" confuses my students 
>sometimes because it is similar to "verb phrase" (i.e., created by T 
>+ m + (be + -ing) + (have + -en) + MV).
>
>Beth
>
> >>> "Veit, Richard" <[log in to unmask]> 3/24/2009 10:58 AM >>>
>I have another question for ATEGers. A phrasal verb typically 
>consists of a verb-word and a preposition-word. But what about those 
>two-word predicates such as "look forward" and "put forth" where the 
>second word is neither a preposition-word nor separable from the 
>verb-word? Do we call them "phrasal verbs" as well?
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