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Martha Kolln <[log in to unmask]>
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Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:42:14 -0500
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Indeed they did, Reinhold!  But they also knew the conservative bent of
Pennsylvania's legislature--and that polyandric professors were unlikely to
be teaching at Penn State!

Martha




>Did none of your students ever speculate that you might indulge in
>polyandric relationships? <grin>
>
>==Reinhold
>
>Martha Kolln wrote:
>>
>> The restictive/nonrestrictive example I used in my classes was
>>
>>         My husband, John, is a farmer.
>>         My son John is a student.
>>
>> I would ask my students why I punctuated them differently; and I would ask
>> what they knew about the size of my family.  It's also a lesson about
>> intonation.  The first has three intonation contours; the second, only one.
>>
>> Martha Kolln
>>
>> >Bruce,
>> >
>> >I'm afraid I must disagree with your #1 comment below. Whether the
>> >appositive is one word or more than one word is not the issue. The issue is
>> >whether the appositive is necessary. My usual way to teach this is to ask
>> >who has one brother (or sister) and who has more than one. I then write out
>> >the two variations:
>> >
>> >My brother Charlie lives in Chicago.
>> >My brother, Charlie, lives in Chicago.
>> >
>> >One of the best examples I know of is this: Beethoven's opera, Fidelio, is
>> >magnificent.
>> >
>> >(Why can't I do italics in Outlook Express???)
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Keeper of the memory and method of Francis Christensen.
>> >WriteforCollege.com
>> >The Stewart English Program (epsbooks.com)
>> >> From: Bruce Despain <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Reply-To: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
>> >> <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:05:40 -0600
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: A simple question?
>> >>
>> >> Jennifer,
>> >>
>> >> 1) The commas aren't needed with single word appositives:  "My sister
>>Alice
>> >> was beautiful."
>> >> 2) Quotes inside quotes are ranked.  Usually we have  a single quote mark
>>if
>> >> we are quoting the material around it with double quote marks.
>> >> 3) I have seen where a linguist, who uses the single quote marks to speak
>>of
>> >>a
>> >> word, per se, will keep the mark within the comma.  Normally the mark will
>> >> include the comma, especially where multiple words are involved.
>>Scientists,
>> >> who tend to be more logical, often resist custom and insist on following
>> >>logic
>> >> in this regard.
>> >>
>> >> Bruce
>> >>
>> >>>>> [log in to unmask] 07/26/01 01:42PM >>>
>> >> Hello one and all,
>> >>
>> >> I have a question.  Is the placement of commas inside the quotation marks
>> >> correct in this sentence:  "The sculpture,"Discus Thrower," was beautiful
>>to
>> >> behold."  That is, are commas always inside quotations?
>> >>
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