Brad, Having just responded to Dick's last email about crazies who try 
to communicate with you, please
let me communicate with you before I get off the list.

Your persistent demand for a definition in the face of several fine 
ones that have been offered characterizes
you as a petulant brat.  When I last responded and asked you to tell 
me what a past perfect verb is, you did
not answer.  You instead "graded" the examples I gave you.  I'd 
suggest that you offer the definitive and—no
doubt—divine definition so the group can spare time bleeping your 
bleeping emails.

tj



On Thursday 02/17/2011 at 5:15 pm, Brad Johnston   wrote:
>
>
>
> Tell us what it is, Dick, and you will hear no more "bait".
>
> It's not bait. It's a simple question. What is it? Craig clearly 
> doesn't know. Herb doesn't know. The young man's English teacher at 
> the community college doesn't know and she had the good grace to admit 
> it.
>
> Do you know what it is? If you do, prove it. If you don't, it would be 
> ever so nice if you would stop bad-mouthing me.
>
> Go ahead. Prove it. Let's hear it.
>
> .brad.thur.17feb11.
>
> From: Dick Veit <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 4:33:25 PM
> Subject: Re: insanity
>
> Craig,
>
> I agree completely, and I look forward to every one of Herb's posts. 
> But people do continue to respond to Brad. If doing the same thing 
> again and again and expecting a different result is insanity, I wonder 
> who is crazier, those who keep taking Brad's bait or those (like you 
> and me) who keep trying to get others to stop taking his bait.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Craig Hancock <[log in to unmask]> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dick,
>>    The idea for this most recent conversation is to come up with a 
>> view of the past perfect that pleases the rest of us. Whether it 
>> pleases Brad is not important.  It is insanity to expect a 
>> conversation with Brad to accomplish anything new, so our goal should 
>> be to discuss it with each other. I am looking forward to reading what 
>> Herb comes up with. I expect Brad to react angrily to that, but his 
>> response is irrelevant.
>>   I may be wrong, but I think reacting to Brad has kept us from a 
>> productive discussion.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On 2/16/2011 3:51 PM, Dick Veit wrote:
>>> If we would all try just a little harder, explain the past perfect 
>>> just a little more clearly, try just one or two or fifty more times to 
>>> get you-know-who to engage in productive dialogue, surely then he will 
>>> see reason and all will be well and we can turn to other topics. We 
>>> won't know if we don't try many, many, many more times, will we?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Geoffrey Layton 
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Geoff Layton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:45:46 -0500
>>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: insanity
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different 
>>>> results.
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