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"Spruiell, William C" <[log in to unmask]>
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Just a side note on this kind of example: it might be a very handy one
for getting students started on a discussion of commas and parentheses
as alternate ways to mark non-restrictive info:

 

Egbert, a devotee of Shakespeare, whose birthday was yesterday, . . . 

 

Egbert (a devotee of Shakespeare, whose birthday was yesterday) . . .

 

Egbert, a devotee of Shakespeare (whose birthday was yesterday) . . .

 

I've used "If you can put it in parenthesis and it looks right, it's
probably non-restrictive" as an rule of thumb in my classes, but that
doesn't address why you might want to use one kind of punctuation
instead of another. 

 

---- Bill Spruiell

 

From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bruce Despain
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: question on a relative clause

 

There is an ambiguity in Dick's example depending on who had the
birthday, Egbert or Shakespeare.  If it was S's birthday, the
non-restrictive relative clause is included in the appositive phrase.
If it was E's birthday, the non-restrictive relative clause is parallel
to and separate from the appositive.  A possibly better illustration of
an included clause would be the one in the following, where the clause
modifies the whole phrase, not just S.:

 

Egbert, a devotee of Shakespeare, which are quite numerous even today, .
. . 

 

 

From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dick Veit
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: question on a relative clause

 

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Scott Woods <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

Could a non-restrictive noun phrase appositive include a non-restrictive
relative clause element as a postheadword modifier? 

 

Scott Woods


Is this what you mean?

Egbert, a devotee of Shakespeare, whose birthday was yesterday, ...


Dick Veit 

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