I developed a good one on line for DARPA in the late 70s. I wrote the basic
requirements in English: someone else with a higher security clearance put
it into computer language (I never got above Critical Sensitive). It only
ran one semester: I worked as a volunteer so I lost no money. The programs
that I am developing now are graduate courses in historical linguistics and
descriptive linguistics--leaning heavily on Lehmann and Gleeson. Once I
finish those, I'll work on English historical linguistics (Pyles and Algeo
and Koine (NT) Greek (Machen) historical linguistics. All these are
volunteer work also.
By then I'll be in my late 70s and to you from failing hands I'll throw the
torch.
I might add that UCF has many courses with on-line components (or all on
line) that do the grading. With 60K students we have to use every method
possible.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:12:05 -0400
From: "MARLOW, DAVID" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: ATEG Digest - 29 Mar 2011 to 1 Apr 2011 (#2011-71)
I also teach grammar online & agree with nearly everything Scott suggests..=
.
I have one addition & one request...
Addition:
I have students write 6-7 themes... The first is rather general & reflectiv=
e. For each of the subsequent themes, they analyze their last theme in term=
s of the structures we are currently studying & reflect on what they do wel=
l & what they could improve...
Request:
Scott, could you tell us what text you use that has a "good workbook with q=
uizzes and exercises done and graded automatically"?
Best,
D
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Yes. To teach an online grammar course, you need a syllabus, a good text,
and good workbook with quizzes and exercises done and graded automatically.
You also need provisions for themes to be written on line on specific topic=
s
by specific deadlines and carefully judged and evaluated--this last part is
the hardest and most time-consuming part. The students need to rewrite eac=
h
theme within a specified time limit correcting all errors and, hopefully,
not making more and turning in the themes by a specific deadline or suffer
grade penalties--usually a letter grade a day drop.
Right now I am setting up graduate courses in both historical and
descriptive linguistics with heavy workbook assignment but no themes--just
tests requiring analysis, complex thinking, and cogent argument
Scott Catledge
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:46:51 -0400
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Any help would be appreciated.
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I have CD versions of my grammar workshops. Please contact me offline if
you'd like additional information on them and how they might easily help
meet your needs.
Linda Comerford
317.786.6404
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Fellow Grammarians,
Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar course?
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Marshall
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ng similar pressure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">Marshall<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:17:55 -0500
From: Maryann Whitaker <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: On-line Teaching of an Introductory Grammar Course
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I have taught Freshman Comp courses online, but we are expressly prohibited
from teaching grammar, per se. However, most of us work it into our lesson
plans, even if it's not expressly mentioned on the syllabus.
Maryann
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> Fellow Grammarians,
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> Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar course?
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> We=3D92re under increasing pressure to offer every course taught by the E=
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> Department on-line. Your school may be exerting similar pressure.
>
>
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> Any help would be appreciated.
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> Marshall
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College of Communication & Information Sciences
University of Alabama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Roll Tide!
"*Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of
opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
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its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." Harry
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son plans, even if it's not expressly mentioned on the syllabus.<br><br=
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Maryann <br><br><div class=3D3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:46 P=
M,=3D
Myers, Marshall <span dir=3D3D"ltr"><<a href=3D3D"mailto:Marshall.Myers=
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">Fellow Grammarians,</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">=3DA0</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone out there taught an on-line grammar cou=
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e?</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">=3DA0</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">We=3D92re under increasing pressure to offer every=
cou=3D
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taught by the English Department on-line. Your school may be exerting simil=
=3D
ar
pressure.</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">=3DA0</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal">Any help would be appreciated.</p>
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