Phil:For TESL certification, or an MA TESL, prospective teachers often study syntax, semantics, pragmatics, sociolinguistics, and discourse analysis. Is this not grammar in use? I believe it is. Peace,David BrownEFL/ESL teacherLong Beach, CA--- On Wed 08/30, Phil Bralich < [log in to unmask] > wrote:

From: Phil Bralich [mailto: [log in to unmask]]To: [log in to unmask]: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:46:49 -0700Subject: Re: Grammar CertificationThat's nice, but it still leaves room for someone not to know that participial phrase and a reduced adejective clause are the same thing. A certification test for grammar alone independent of getting a Master's would be a real service for those who want and can teach grammar and for those who want to hire qualified grammar teachers. It is also one more line, one more certification on a C.V. so it cannot be a bad thing. This would have been the best response to reports that grammar study was somehow unimportant or ineffective. I have always been convinced that most of the anti-grammar movement got its support primarily from those afraid of being called to account for an insufficient background in grammar. To this day whenever I hear someone extolling anti-grammar attitudes I immediately know they will be EXTREMELY defensive abou!

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