I contacted my local Harcourt rep for an examination copy of Edith
Wollin's book.
Christine Gray
Suzanne S Webb wrote:
>
> er, the main Harcourt page referred to below is not displaying. Harcourt's
> college text section has been bought by International Thompson (formerly
> Wadsworth), and there is currently lots of confusion. I've got a couple of
> books with Harcourt and I got a letter from them saying that sales,
> editorial, and marketing will be handled by Heinle and Heinle based in
> Boston. If you call the Harcourt 800 number, you may be able to get someone
> who can help. You could also try www.hbcollege.com which is a Thompson site.
> Suzanne Webb
> Texas Woman's University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wollin, Edith" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: choosing books (was "burn your grammar books")
>
> > Here is the web address (unless it is now fixed, they have the title wrong
> > and only Michael shows as author!); however, I don't know the exam copy
> > address; you should have a Harcourt rep in your area that will get it for
> > you. Here is the ISBN # too:0-15-506374-X
> >
> http://main.harcourtcollege.com/catalog/course.jhtml?sdid=english___communic
> > ation___journalism&did=020&cid=EN20
> >
> > Edith Wollin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christine Gray [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:34 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: choosing books (was "burn your grammar books")
> >
> >
> > I went to the Oxford UP web site and requested an examination copy of
> > "Doing Grammar." Thank you, Rebecca, for mentioning it.
> >
> > I am new to this list and several titles that have been mentioned are
> > new to me. I mentioned Klammer in a recent message.
> >
> > I glommed onto his book because it was the only one I could find that
> > was not prescriptive, did not water down the material, was not written
> > as though students were idiots, and had/has Reed-Kellogg and tree
> > diagramming throughout.
> >
> > Edith, I tried to locate the Harcourt web site to request an exam. copy
> > of your book but was not successful. Would you post the Harcourt address
> > for ordering exam copy of "Writers Choices."
> >
> >
> > Wollin, Edith wrote:
> > >
> > > Writers' Choices: Grammar to Improve Style from Michael Kischner and
> Edith
> > > Wollin is finally out from Harcourt if you want to order an examination
> > copy
> > > to see if it interests you. We are hopeful that it can be part of a
> > > composition course, but acknowledge that the two together are a lot a
> work
> > > for those in quarter systems. We are believers in rhetorical grammar,
> come
> > > to independently from Martha, thus proving that it is an idea whose time
> > has
> > > come! And we use sentence combining along with students' own composing.
> > > Edith Wollin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rebecca S. Wheeler [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:51 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: burn your grammar books
> > >
> > > I used Klammer's Analyzing English Grammar for 1 year, and no more. I
> > found
> > > that the
> > > degree of detail he went into was way way more than what the students
> > could
> > > handle,
> > > and was way beyond what I wanted to focus on. Furthermore, there weren't
> > > enough
> > > exercises to suit my taste.
> > >
> > > As many on this listserve know, my preference is for Morenberg's DOING
> > > GRAMMAR,
> > > which will soon be in the third edition, I hear. So, I'm returning to
> > DOING
> > > GRAMMAR
> > > this year (next week), in both my advanced grammar classes. I will try
> > > blending that
> > > with his "Writer's Options" as a way to apply some of the more complex
> > > clause
> > > structures to writing.
> > >
> > > His focus on basic structural analysis of the sentence into the 6 types
> > of
> > > verb
> > > types (and hence sentence structure types) is VERY accessible, with
> clear
> > > mnemonics.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > Christine Gray wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone on the list used Thomas Klammer's Analyzing English
> Grammar??
> > > >
> > > > I've been using it for about six years. One aspect of it I prefer
> over
> > > > Kolln's is that it has examples of diagramming using both tree and
> > > > Reed-Kellogg diagrams.
> > > >
> > > > And, Ed, I agree with you! It is so difficult to find actual grammar
> > > > books. Most books seem to be either handbooks/refereence books or
> > > > designed for developmental students.
> > > >
> > > > Christine Gray
> > >
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
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> > > Department of English
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> > > Christopher Newport University
> > > Newport News, VA 23606-2998
> > >
> > > Telephone: 757-598-8891
> > > Fax: 757-594-8870
> > >
> > > Rebecca S. Wheeler is Editor of Syntax in the Schools, the quarterly
> > journal
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> > > National
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> > > middle class
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