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"Paul E. Doniger" <[log in to unmask]>
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Bill, et all,

Of course, we can also make the welkin dance (indeed), Thy hounds can make the welkin anwer them / And fetch shrill echoes from the hollow earth, and sometimes hideous echoes make the welkin howl. I suppose this thread has effected a response from me among others, but whether that usage of 'effect' as a verb is acceptable by all is out of my welkin entirely!

);--}

Paul D.

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From: "Spruiell, William C" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:12:29 PM
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Peter, 
 
I have seen the expression “effect a cure” in connection to medicine before, and I’m fairly sure I’ve seen “effect an escape” in regards to a jailbreak. The verb is of quite limited usage, but it’s not quite as set a collocation as things like “wreak havoc” or “make the welkin ring.”
 
-- Bill Spruiell
 



From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Adams
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:45 PM
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Am I right that "effect" as a verb almost always takes "change" as an object?  Other than a change, what else can one effect?



Peter Adams


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