Wait a sec, are you saying you know for a fact that Henry K. wrote  
all his own speeches?  What is your source?



On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Brad Johnston wrote:

> GOOD shot!
>
> Depends on what the definition of "is" is, n.t.s.
>
> Has he ever written anything we can get hold of? that he wrote  
> himself?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Atchley, Clinton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It depends, of course, on your definition of "great" and
> "articulate," but for his ability to work an audience, it has to be
> Bill Clinton.
>
> Clinton Atchley, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of English
> Director, Master of Liberal Arts Program
> Box 7652
> Henderson State University
> Arkadelphia, AR  71999
> Phone:  870.230.5276
> Email:  [log in to unmask]
> URL:  http://www.hsu.edu/atchlec
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar on behalf of  
> Susan van
> Druten
> Sent: Tue 11/25/2008 6:20 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: the most articulate American
>
>
> Barack Obama.
>
> But you weren't really listening to Paul.  When he said he didn't want
> to play best and worst list games, you said you agreed with him.   
> Clearly, you
> do not agree with him.  I don't particularly think Obama is a great  
> orator
> (because politicians are full of b.s.), but since I'd rather listen  
> to him
> than Henry and since he's kinda in the news right now, he's my choice
> for greatest political living orator.  As far as verbal skills--and  
> not
> speeches--go, I think Steven Colbert is very clever.  But he's  
> playing the
> role of a sophist.  I also like Mark Twain and George Orwell and  
> H.L. Mencken.
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Brad Johnston wrote:
>
>
> Whadaya talking about? There are Best and Worst lists published  
> every day.
> Netflix sends you a DVD movie and asks you to grade it one to five:  
> hated it,
> didn't like it, liked it, liked it a lot, loved it. Then their  
> computer
> tells you what it thinks you'll grade a movie you haven't seen yet.
>
> Every speech I ever gave I had a critic sitting in the back - a speech
> professor if I could find one.
>
> You don't like my choice, tell us what yours is.
>
> Don't you pay attention to what people write and how they write it?  
> If you
> do, you must think some are better than others. Henry's going to be  
> tough to
> beat but go ahead and try it. Take a shot.
>
> Anyone else want to take a shot and let Paul hunker down? It's not
> Hemingway and it's not George Bush and it's not Mary Higgins Clark.  
> Who
> is it? Who's really got a handle on our language?
>
> C'mon, gang. Who's really good at it?
>
> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Paul E. Doniger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> If you agreed with everything I said, then you wouldn't ask such a
> question. I see no value in debating who is or who isn't a better  
> user of
> the English language than Henry Kissinger. I'd rather just dwell  
> joyfully in
> good language when I come across it and not make comparisons.
>
>
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